tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post7016994491386532003..comments2024-02-19T22:24:48.553-06:00Comments on Ite ad Thomam Institute: S. Emerentiana: Patroness of Feeneyites?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-67210917920202621362011-07-30T14:06:58.481-05:002011-07-30T14:06:58.481-05:00Can you prove that those who received baptism of b...Can you prove that those who received baptism of blood did not previously receive water baptism? Isn't that the way the Feeneyites argue?<br /><br />Daniel OffuttAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-91196219330292960122011-07-29T14:42:52.589-05:002011-07-29T14:42:52.589-05:00Anonymous, to the first question, the answer is af...Anonymous, to the first question, the answer is affirmative. To the second question, the answer is negative: the theologians are not limited to those dates. They include all the doctors of the Church as well as other approved theologians.Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-76477621459151825182011-07-29T13:03:00.098-05:002011-07-29T13:03:00.098-05:00Is it true that Pope Bl. Pius IX taught in Tuas Li...Is it true that Pope Bl. Pius IX taught in Tuas Libenter that if "the theologians" were unanimous on any teaching about Faith or morals, then that teaching is infallible?<br /><br />Is it true that the definition of "the theologians" above is those theologians in Catholic schools of theology world-wide between 1100 AD and 1750 (and no others)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-68544065056241897012011-05-22T22:44:04.716-05:002011-05-22T22:44:04.716-05:00Don Paco-
This is a great post. If you want to ad...Don Paco-<br /><br />This is a great post. If you want to add another one to the line up from a few centuries later, check out the account of the martyrdom of St. Alban in Bede's History of the English Church, Chapter 7.Bonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-61010479606946800392010-10-15T11:48:59.255-05:002010-10-15T11:48:59.255-05:00Is an “implicit desire” for water baptism supposed...Is an “implicit desire” for water baptism supposed to be a desire that a man would have had, if he only knew of his obligation to be baptized?<br /><br />Consider a man who will, throughout his entire life, be invincibly ignorant of his obligation to be baptized. There are two cases at the moment of his death: (1) He would have had a desire for baptism if he had only known of his obligation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-82721111875129696282010-08-24T10:17:26.772-05:002010-08-24T10:17:26.772-05:004) I do not say that "everyone needs to enter...4) I do not say that "everyone needs to enter the Catholic Church <i>except</i> for those with the baptism of desire, invincible ignorance" (your words, my emphasis). Rather, what I say is what all the manuals say: to be saved, one must <i>belong</i> to the Church. One must be <i>in</i> the Church. Yet this is not equivalent to saying that one must be a <i>member</i> of the Church. Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-78330068996788532962010-08-24T10:16:42.549-05:002010-08-24T10:16:42.549-05:00Dear Lionel,
1) Your distinction of "implici...Dear Lionel,<br /><br />1) Your distinction of "implicit" and "explicit" baptism of desire is absent from all the classic theological manuals. It seems more like a novelty, a contraption, theological gymnastics that somehow allow you to deny baptism of desire and affirm it at the same time. None of the approved theologians make qualifications as to baptism of desire. The Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-12039331362579398612010-08-23T15:42:15.973-05:002010-08-23T15:42:15.973-05:00most Feeneyites do not make the distinction betwee...most Feeneyites do not make the distinction between <i>de facto</i> and <i>de jure</i> necessity of being a member of the Church. You are to be commended for it insofar as it is an intelligent attempt to reconcile <i>EENS</i> with the teaching of the theologians on baptism of desire. I believe another smart distinction is that between being a member of the Church and 'belonging' to the Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-40478697440221026372010-08-23T10:35:45.012-05:002010-08-23T10:35:45.012-05:00Dear "Catholic Mission." You've sai...Dear "Catholic Mission." You've said so much in such a disorderly way that I'm not exactly sure what your thesis is.<br /><br />Would you please have the charity of boiling down your argument to a couple of premises and a conclusion?Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-9302521771011777222010-08-23T09:16:12.289-05:002010-08-23T09:16:12.289-05:00VATICAN COUNCIL II TEACHES THE RIGORIST INTERPRETA...VATICAN COUNCIL II TEACHES THE RIGORIST INTERPRETATION OF EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND FEENYISM<br /> <br />Why do you assume that Feenyism rejects the Baptism of Blood in principle (dejure)?<br /><br /><br />Vatican Council II says everyone with no exception needs to be a formal, visible member of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell and to go to Heaven. The Council is in accord with the ex Catholic Missionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06025127342963192930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-68754121509027306202008-02-12T15:28:00.000-06:002008-02-12T15:28:00.000-06:00I stand corrected. Thanks,-FJR.I stand corrected. <BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/>-FJR.Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311891550867339411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-24192552192136460002008-02-12T15:06:00.000-06:002008-02-12T15:06:00.000-06:00If you choose to comment on the followers of Fr. F...If you choose to comment on the followers of Fr. Feeney, you really should get the spelling right: FeenEy, not Feeny. Thank you and God bless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-68788145552890019972008-01-29T12:31:00.000-06:002008-01-29T12:31:00.000-06:00Beautiful post - Your Catholic faith shines throug...Beautiful post - Your Catholic faith shines through it.Sanctus Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06189142564821094716noreply@blogger.com