tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post8693179492512632155..comments2024-02-19T22:24:48.553-06:00Comments on Ite ad Thomam Institute: Predestination is not in Itself a Calvinist HeresyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-88502630157941551942011-02-10T22:07:38.330-06:002011-02-10T22:07:38.330-06:00"But the Church condemns double predestinatio..."But the Church condemns double predestination (which includes predestination to eternal damnation) and teaches that those who are damned are damned because they simply chose to reject God, not because He has predestined them to be damned."<br /><br />Is this correct? Dr. Ott teaches that God eternally resolves to exclude certain rational creatures from eternal bliss. This is not Ben Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-61567975820698700212010-12-14T15:08:35.366-06:002010-12-14T15:08:35.366-06:00Please enlighten me.Please enlighten me.Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-64634745976159901842010-12-14T08:39:22.061-06:002010-12-14T08:39:22.061-06:00Whoever wrote this article does not really underst...Whoever wrote this article does not really understand what Calvin really believed regarding predestination and free will. <br /><br />Ask me why did I say so, I'll tell ya....Jephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04904821318321521552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-41459157761438341062010-02-26T17:55:54.163-06:002010-02-26T17:55:54.163-06:00I have not analyzed those texts, but one of the do...I have not analyzed those texts, but one of the dogmatic manuals I read once said that they can be interpreted as negative predestination: God does not positively damn them to hell from all eternity, but simply does not predestine them, which means that they will infallibly be damned.Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-34902688309975652182010-02-26T13:04:05.097-06:002010-02-26T13:04:05.097-06:00Francisco,This has been so helpful. I always strug...Francisco,This has been so helpful. I always struggled where everyone was classified as in terms of the different systems of thought out there. I have a question though; would you have a lsit of folks that would fall under each of the two categories (molinism and premotion)? Also,what do we do with the texts in Aquinas that seem to imply double predestination? Again, thank you for this David Mendezhttp://www.thomisttacos.orgnoreply@blogger.com