tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post2227671588152762991..comments2024-02-19T22:24:48.553-06:00Comments on Ite ad Thomam Institute: Mexican SSPX Group Vandalizes FSSP Apostolate, Disturbs MassUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-86386024776376958802010-02-11T06:14:30.383-06:002010-02-11T06:14:30.383-06:00After having first posted on the front page of the...After having first posted on the front page of the North American District's website, the SSPX buried their response on their website but it could still be found if you had the direct URL. Since then, I have received another email response from the SSPX which was a copy and paste of the following:<br /><br />"February 7, 2010<br /><br />During the month of January, the association, &Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-78332761673294161992010-02-05T23:28:54.226-06:002010-02-05T23:28:54.226-06:00Wow! This gets wackier by the minute. The SSPX U...Wow! This gets wackier by the minute. The SSPX US District website added an additional note to their news brief on this event earlier in the day, further justifying what occurred in Mexico. Now this evening they have pulled the entire statement. I am not sure what that is about. Perhaps Bishop Fellay has gotten wind of the situation. I know I have sent emails trying to contact him myself. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-6978782109546913512010-02-05T10:48:46.092-06:002010-02-05T10:48:46.092-06:00The SSPX posted a response on their website yester...The SSPX posted a response on their website yesterday. They deny that they were protesting the event. They said they were just there to pray the Rosary for the event. There response is very superficial and leaves lost of holes:<br /><br />SSPX-FSSP MEXICO INCIDENT: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED<br /><br />http://www.sspx.org/miscellaneous/sspx_fssp_mexico_incident.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-71970139670104203282010-02-04T23:58:06.239-06:002010-02-04T23:58:06.239-06:00If anyone is interested in me giving more details ...If anyone is interested in me giving more details (although I pretty much gave all the details I could give), they can just contact me here (at the email address on the sidebar).Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-23077302099258148722010-02-04T07:57:50.816-06:002010-02-04T07:57:50.816-06:00I finally received a brief response back from the ...I finally received a brief response back from the SSPX Headquarters in the US. The response said that they are aware of the story and are attempting to verify the facts. They believe the facts are being misrepresented at this time. Those who witnessed this event really need to forward their accounts to the SSPX, especially Bishop Fellay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-5980876859376190442010-02-03T13:31:38.342-06:002010-02-03T13:31:38.342-06:00I think there's a cultural barrier to understa...I think there's a cultural barrier to understanding of the event.<br /><br />Those that are skeptical of this event ever even happening are right in one thing: in thinking that if anything like this ever happened in the US, the police would have been called, the event would have been on TV, there would have been a police report and a lawsuit, and people would have been very involved (on both Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-52938037246605772742010-02-03T12:19:39.995-06:002010-02-03T12:19:39.995-06:00No more updates so far. I'll post something i...No more updates so far. I'll post something if anything new happens (contingent upon getting permission).Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-33420811132632259902010-02-03T08:11:47.285-06:002010-02-03T08:11:47.285-06:00Don Paco,
Is there an update to report? I emaile...Don Paco,<br /><br />Is there an update to report? I emailed the SSPX for their side of the story but they have not responded. I just cannot beleive that they have not issued some statement on this story yet. By now, they should have issued an apology and a reprimand, distancing themselves from this event - or they should have denied it if they believe it to be false. However, they have done Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-39350863426216068112010-02-01T15:17:16.350-06:002010-02-01T15:17:16.350-06:00Thank you so much Don Paco, and God bless all of y...Thank you so much Don Paco, and God bless all of you down there devoted to the cause of the traditional Mass and orthodoxy.<br /><br />PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-23015955728703488742010-02-01T14:29:54.483-06:002010-02-01T14:29:54.483-06:00Part 6:
-After the sermon, Fr. Romanoski stepped ...Part 6:<br /><br />-After the sermon, Fr. Romanoski stepped out of the sanctuary, came out the front doors and tried to talk to the priest, but to no avail (the priest was still leading the rosary behind the loud speaker). So he told the crowd that it was not an ecumenical Mass but a Mass for the conversion of non-Catholics, that the sermon was a staunch reaffirmation of the traditional teachingDon Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-13944609275209879742010-02-01T14:29:47.861-06:002010-02-01T14:29:47.861-06:00Part 5:
-The whole event has been put into questi...Part 5:<br /><br />-The whole event has been put into question because a police report was not filed for the graffiti. This is quite humorous. Only a non-Mexican could ever reason that way. If you knew Mexico, you would not be asking that question. It never crossed anyone's mind that calling the police would ever solve anything.<br /><br />-The night of Wednesday, January 20, the church Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-35277887513814816422010-02-01T14:29:17.104-06:002010-02-01T14:29:17.104-06:00Part 4:
-To stress how accurate the story was in ...Part 4:<br /><br />-To stress how accurate the story was in Catholic Champion Blog, I should note that the only inaccurate part is that the story puts exclamation points within the graffiti message, whereas in reality there was no punctuation. Everything else in the message is 100% accurate. <br /><br />-She tells me that the priests then asked a couple of people who went to Mass that morning toDon Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-39679285382493602642010-02-01T14:28:40.214-06:002010-02-01T14:28:40.214-06:00Part 3:
-Early in the week, Fr Romanoski sent em...Part 3: <br /><br />-Early in the week, Fr Romanoski sent emails to the priests and people of the SSPX in order to dispel apparent rumors among them that the FSSP was going to have an ecumenical Mass or an ecumenical congress. He explained that they were going to have a traditional Mass for the unity of the Church (according to the 1962 Missal), and not an ecumenical congress, and that the idea Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-14808206687426696002010-02-01T14:28:18.448-06:002010-02-01T14:28:18.448-06:00Part 2:
-A few days before Wednesday, January 20,...Part 2:<br /><br />-A few days before Wednesday, January 20, some lay people from outside the 'colonia' (the neighborhood) approached Fr Romanoski and Fr Fryar (FSSP priests) asking them if our chapel could participate in a series of ecumenical Masses that were taking place throughout the city for ecumenism week. Our priests said they would not participate since they do not do ecumenicalDon Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-74632980926931366942010-02-01T14:27:25.035-06:002010-02-01T14:27:25.035-06:00My reply to pascendi, part 1:
"Well, you can...My reply to pascendi, part 1:<br /><br />"Well, you can get the general story at Catholic Champion Blog. The basics of what happened are all there. Other than that, I can add how I was involved. I apologize if I am giving too many details for your interest, but since the reality of this event having taken place has been questioned all over the internet, I would like to make it clear that Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-75909339660746509992010-02-01T14:26:42.458-06:002010-02-01T14:26:42.458-06:00Pascendi wrote to me, saying:
"I saw your po...Pascendi wrote to me, saying:<br /><br />"I saw your post claiming to have witnessed what happened between the SSPX and the FSSP, and was wondering if you could relate what you saw take place and confirm the details..."Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-59118497915714073392010-02-01T12:45:24.426-06:002010-02-01T12:45:24.426-06:00It should also be stressed that the graffiti was f...It should also be stressed that the graffiti was found in the morning of the day of the Mass, and the Mass and the protest did not happen until evening. Therefore, they were separate acts that happened at different times. In other words, the graffiti was not put there by the protesters, at least not while they were protesting. In fact, the graffiti was probably not something that the priest Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-87372930239624790282010-02-01T12:14:31.616-06:002010-02-01T12:14:31.616-06:00Sure, I understand. I cannot give the SSPX side a...Sure, I understand. I cannot give the SSPX side as I am not one of them, but I asked a lady and she said that they were protesting against the "Ecumenical Congress" that was happening inside. (Of course, this is sign of a terrible miscommunication, possibly even a malicious one.) In any case, even though the person leading the crowd was an SSPX priest, I imagine the position of the Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-56246635313668124492010-02-01T10:22:10.841-06:002010-02-01T10:22:10.841-06:00any pictures of this? One cannot fully come to a j...any pictures of this? One cannot fully come to a judgement until hearing both sides. Don Paco referred to the SSPX'ers as the "mob" How many were there in this "mob"? Painting graffiti is a terrible act and a sin. But we still owe it to the SSPX to hear from them.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06297661931540113158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-53935190950048081632010-01-30T19:32:31.122-06:002010-01-30T19:32:31.122-06:00Dear Dr. Romero,
I am convinced that the FSSP is ...Dear Dr. Romero,<br /><br />I am convinced that the FSSP is in error in regards to its stance on Vatican II and the New Mass, but if it is true that the SSPX group did this, then it is abominable! Shame on those SSPX parishioners who not only have acted unCatholic, but have also created a scandal for other SSPX faithful around the world.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10944698343440161652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24504461.post-81516821806411141032010-01-30T17:20:34.143-06:002010-01-30T17:20:34.143-06:00For some reason, traddies throughout the internet ...For some reason, traddies throughout the internet are skeptical about the truth of this report; I can confirm the truth and accuracy of the story, as I was there present, fully involved with helping Father, who was trying to subdue the mob. If you have any questions about the incident or would like more details, feel free to email me at the address on the sidebar.Don Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13921692353515274589noreply@blogger.com